Saturday, August 3, 2019

Speaking in Sacrament Meeting

Kim and I were asked to speak in Sacrament Meeting on Sunday July 28.  We were asked to speak about the Love of God and Love of Neighbors.  So we both ended up speaking about China and our experiences there and of course a little bit about Fiji.  I realize these are both long but if anyone is interested, here are our talks.  If you're not, then don't read them.  But in any case, it's a record kept.

I was surprised how emotional I was as I began my talk.  I'm not really quite sure why other then it's been an emotional time preparing to go for such a long time and I was speaking about things that are very dear to my heart...


I’ve had several scriptures going through my mind the past month or so that I’d like to share:
14 …. I give unto you to be the light of this people. A city that is set on a hill cannot be hid.
15 Behold, do men light a acandle and put it under a bushel? Nay, but on a candlestick, and it giveth light to all that are in the house;  (isn’t that a beautiful image!)
16 Therefore let your alight so shine before this people, that they may see your good works and bglorify your Father who is in heaven.
36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt alove the Lord thy God with all thy bheart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy cmind.
38 This is the first and great acommandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt alove thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the alaw and the prophets.

7 And it came to pass that I, Nephi, said unto my father: I awill go and do the things which the Lord hath commanded, for I know that the Lord giveth no bcommandments unto the children of men, save he shall cprepare a way for them that they may accomplish the thing which he commandeth them.

Mosiah 23: 10 Nevertheless, aafter much btribulation, the Lord did hear my cries, and did answer my prayers, and has made me an cinstrument in his hands…..
Moses 1:39 This is my work and my glory to bring to pass the immortality and eternal life of man.
I’ve never been one who felt like I could share the gospel with a complete stranger…or even share the gospel with some of my friends.  But we have been given the greatest gift of all time…knowledge of Jesus Christ and who we are, where we came from and where we are going and what our Heavenly Father wants from us.  Do we really want to hide that under a bushel?   Or do we want to share our light so that others can glorify God.  Jesus Christ wants us to share the gospel, and we can do that by teaching or by example.  Sometimes the only way to share the gospel is by our examples.  We share our light by the way we live our lives, how we treat others…we made a covenant at baptism to stand as a witness of God at all times and in all things and in all places…to let our light shine before this people. And as we share our light, we become instruments in God’s hands to help Him in bringing to pass the immortality and eternal life of man.  And we are willing to do that…to make the sacrifices necessary to do that…because we love our Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ and our fellowmen.

WE went to China 2 years ago to teach English through a program sponsored by the Church through BYU.   We had no idea what we were getting in to.  In 2 days we will be leaving for the MTC in New Zealand and 10 days later, on to Fiji.  We will be working in the schools owned by the Church teaching courses to the teachers to help them become certified.  Again, we have no idea what we are getting in to.  For those that don’t know the story, Kim and I taught English at a university in Xi’an China.  We went in August 2017 for 10 months. We were home for only 4 months before we were asked to return to Xi’an in 4 months to take the place of a couple that was called to be a mission president.  When we got that call to return, we were in the process of submitting papers to go on a mission.  We had been asked to come to this particular mission because of our experiences in teaching and Kim’s administration experience in the public schools.  Katie was expecting her 4th child and I had committed to her to teach her preschool when she had the baby which was due the week they wanted us to return.  This was not the best time to return to China, despite how much we loved our time there previously. After much consideration, prayer, and discussions with our children and my aging parents, we decided that this was what the Lord wanted us to do.  This was where we needed to be.  Two days after returning to China, we received our call to teach education courses to the teachers at the church owned schools in Fiji.  So, we have been given many opportunities to let our light shine.  We had a remarkable experience with our college students.  We learned so much about some of God’s precious children.

In 1991 President Dallin H Oaks gave a devotional address at BYU where he spoke about China.  Quoting from that address, He said: “People sometimes ask me about what can be done to “open China.” In response, I state my belief that China is already “open”—it is we who are closed. We are closed because we expect the Orient to be the same as the West, China to be the same as Canada or Chile. We must open our minds and our hearts to the people of this ancient realm and this magnificent culture. We must understand their way of thinking, their aspirations, and their impressive accomplishments. We must observe their laws and follow their example of patience. We must deserve to be their friends.”

We definitely left feeling honored and blessed to have served these people who are so different from us but are so much like us.

The church has a great relationship with China but we still have restrictions. There are no missionaries serving in China.  We were not missionaries or set apart as such. But we were reminded often of our important role.

We are allowed to hold church meetings.  But not with the Chinese.  The Chinese members of the church are allowed to hold church meetings.  But not with foreigners.  We are told that there is a small branch of Chinese members who meet together but we are not told who they are or where they meet.  We cannot talk about the church to any of the Chinese people.  If they ask us questions about our religious beliefs, we have to politely decline giving an answer.  So, what is the reason for the church in sending 80 English teachers to China every year?  To let their light so shine among this people, that they may see their good works…. To plant a seed.  To prepare the people so that when the day comes when their government will allow missionaries to come into their country and will allow them to teach the gospel of Jesus Christ, they will have had an example set for them.  It’s also to help prepare us so we will know their ways and their culture and know better how to be their friends.  

there were times, though, when I so wished I could just tell my students a little bit about our religion.  To help them see that they are children of a God who loves them.  To tell them about Jesus Christ who loves them equally and who sacrificed all things so that they could not only have life after death but so that they could have comfort and strength and peace in times when they need it the most.  That they have a purpose. But I couldn’t. 


Each day our classes would start with 4 or 5 students asking me a question.  They could ask anything they wanted.  Just to give them the opportunity to speak.  One day a student asked me: “If we existed before this life, would you want to know about it?”

When he asked me that, I just looked at him.  Then I think I asked him to repeat the question to make sure I understood him correctly.  Was he really asking me if I believed in a pre-existence?  Would I want to know about it?  WHY yes, I would.  And not only would I but I DO know about it.  But I was restricted in what I could say.  So I told him as much as I thought I dare—yes I would want to know and I actually have a belief that we existed but it’s part of my religious belief and I’ve made a commitment to not talk about it. And he understood.

The biggest thing I learned while living in China…in a country where most of the 1.4 billion people don’t even believe that a God exists….was that they have some hope and/or faith that life maybe existed before and they definitely believe that life continues after this life. 

The Chinese have a holiday that they call Tomb Sweeping.  In this holiday, families gather pictures of items that their deceased family members might need, like computers, cars or clothing.  They also purchase fake money.  Then on the night of tomb sweeping, they build a small fire and burn the money and the pictures believing that these things will be sent to their ancestors.  Now if that’s not a belief in life after death than I don’t know what is!!!

Because I know they had these strong feelings toward their families, I did a unit on families, as did many teachers.  Each week we discussed different members of the family.  I began by having them make a pedigree chart.  All my students could fill in their parents and most could fill in grandparents.  But very few knew anything about their great-grandparents.  So, there was a great assignment, to talk to their parents and grandparents and find out who their great grandparents are.  Then I gave them an assignment to find out something about one of their great-grandparents and come back to class ready to share their story. Then a story about one of their grandparents.  And then their parents.  And lastly, a story about themselves.  We talked at length about who they were.  I couldn’t tell them they were a child of God but I could tell them that they are who they are because of their parents – their grandparents – and their great grandparents.  The lives they lived have a great influence on their life today.  I talked to them about how important they are and how they each have purpose!  I asked them to look inside themselves and find out who they are.  What is it that they can do in this life.  What is their purpose?  During all our discussions each week, I always brought in examples of my own family and my ancestors and talked about our relationships and how much my family means to me.  I wanted them to know they could make a difference and living a good life and making good choices will bring them happiness.  That love is the tool that will change the world.

Did I teach the gospel?  Not really BUT yes kind of.  I planted a seed.  I gave them something to think about. I tried to let them see my light so that one day when the gospel is introduced to them, whether in this life or the next, that the seed I planted will come out of its hiding place and start to grow.

I’d like to share a few profound comments from students that shows that the seeds have been planted and the light has been shone.  These are students who most do not believe in a loving Heavenly Father or Jesus Christ.  But who believe in family and are trying to believe in themselves:

“Not everything in life works out exactly as planned but if you trust in the cycle of the seasons you know that in the long term you will reap the harvest you have sown.”

“Families are the aggregate of love.  The harbor of feelings. The cradle of growth. The spiritual paradise.”

*“It is true that everybody should be virtuous. Good and honest is the basic thing for everyone.  Good and honest is the best thing that my parents gave me.  I don’t want to be a person who has too much money or is very famous.  I just want to try my best to do what I should do and to be more kindly and modest.”

*talking about her grandparents, one student said, “though they will leave us one day, you know death is not the ending of life but forgetting is.  The most honor I show them is remember them and pass on their story, generation after generation.”

“Grandparents that have passed are now standing in front of me…in family research.”

The seeds for doing family research are being planted all over China. ….aturning the bhearts of the fathers to the children, and the children to the fathers,”  What an honor for me to see their spirits searching, longing, and having faith that there is more than what the eye beholds.

As members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, we are asked to share our light.  We are asked to stand as a witness.  We are asked to search out our families and bring them all into the fold.  We are asked to Help others Come unto Christ.  We have been asked to Love our neighbors as ourselves.

One day in RS the RS president made the comment that she knew God loved all of us but she didn’t really comprehend how that is possible.  A few days later as I walked down the street I thought of all the people I had met in China.  I thought of the great love that I had for them and how much I was going to miss them when I returned home the following week.  I thought about how my heart just kept expanding so that I could continue to love more and more people.  And I had a little glimpse into how God can love ALL of us.  I was kind of like the Grinch…my heart grew 10 Times at least!!!
Again Quoting Dallin H. Oaks:  “I believe that in China the Lord will do his own work, and, as he has said in modern scripture, his work will be done “in his own time, and in his own way, and according to his own will” (D&C 88:68).  In the meantime, we are privileged to be good friends to our Chinese brothers and sisters.”
Kim and I have had the privileged to be GOOD Friends to our Chinese brothers and sisters.   The gospel is rolling forth in God’s way and in God’s time, according to his will. 

Now we move onward to Fiji.  And again We really do not know what to expect. It will be a totally different experience.  Here we will work with members of the Church of Jesus Christ.  We will be teaching in Church owned schools where the students address their teachers by Brother and Sister.  We will be free to talk freely of Jesus Christ  and His light and His gospel and the joy that it can bring into our lives.  We are anxious and willing to stand as a witness once more and let our light so shine before this people.

The Gospel is true.  Heavenly Father Loves all His children—rich and poor, black and white, tall and short, old and young. Asian or Fijian.  I’m grateful to have the gospel in my life.  As Elder Clark said in priesthood session of conference, “have we not cause to rejoice?”  I rejoice in the knowledge of my Savior and his love for all mankind.  All the good that we do is because of LOVE. I rejoice in the prospects of the gospel going forth to China.  I rejoice in the prospects of serving the people of Fiji as we help prepare the world for the Second Coming of the Lord Jesus Christ.
I am grateful to each of you and the support we feel from you.  We are blessed to have been among so many good friends for so many years who have shared your light with us and shown us the way. 

I am so grateful that 3 of our daughters, a son in law and 8 of our grandchildren have joined us today. I love the gospel.  Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ….I will go and let my light so shine before this people….

I say that in HIS name, even Jesus Christ, AMEN.

Here is Kim's talk:
July 28, 2019 Mission Talk


From the day we arrive on the planet.
And blinking step into the sun,
There’s more to see than can ever be seen.
More to do than can ever be done.

There’s far too much to take in here,
More to find than can ever be found
More to learn
More to give
More to share

I Like the words of St Fransis who said, “Preach the Gospel at all times and if necessary use words.”

I’d like to talk just briefly about our experiences the past one and a half years in China and why we are headed to Fiji on a mission.

China Teachers Program – Not a mission
The China Teachers Program (CTP) is a outreach program of the David M. Kennedy Center for International Studies at Brigham Young University. Its purpose is to provide seasoned U.S. teachers to Chinese universities.
Since the program’s inception in 1989, over 1,500 teachers have taught tens of thousands of students at major universities in China. CTP teachers are mostly retired educators and professionals who bring the wisdom and experience of their successful careers to their classes. Their conscientious service benefits Chinese students, host universities, BYU, and the teachers themselves.
PROGRAM GOALS - Mission
  • To provide instruction in English in selected content areas to affiliated Chinese universities for the enrichment of Chinese university students,
  • To build academic and cultural ties between BYU, and Chinese universities, in order to promote mutual understanding and trust.
  • To provide an opportunity for CTP teachers to absorb the ancient and modern culture of China, to enable them to develop friendship and respect for their Chinese students and the People’s Republic of China
  • To provide Chinese students with an intimate and extended exposure to American teachers to increase their awareness of America.
China was Not a mission but did a lot of missionary work


China was Not a mission but did a lot of missionary work

In the book of Alma, there is an account of the sons of Mosiah, who went up to the land of Nephi to preach to the Lamanites; the account tells of their experiences there.  

Alma 17
5 Now these are the circumstances which attended them in their journeyings, for they had many afflictions; they did suffer much, both in body and in mind, such as hunger, thirst and fatigue, and also much labor in the spirit.

9 And it came to pass that they journeyed many days in the wilderness, and they fasted much and prayed much that the Lord would grant unto them a portion of his Spirit to go with them, and abide with them, that they might be an instrument in the hands of God to bring, if it were possible, their brethren, the Lamanites, to the knowledge of the truth,

10 ​And it came to pass that the Lord did ​​​visit​ them with his ​​​Spirit​, and said unto them: Be ​​​comforted​. And they were comforted.
​​​11 ​And the Lord said unto them also: Go forth among the Lamanites, thy brethren, and establish my word; yet ye shall be ​​​patient​ in long-suffering and afflictions, that ye may show forth good ​​​examples​ unto them in me, and I will make an instrument of thee in my hands unto the salvation of many souls.
Alma 26:
27 ​Now when their hearts were depressed, and they were about to ​​​turn​ back, behold, the Lord ​​​comforted​ them, and said: Go amongst thy brethren, the Lamanites, and bear with ​​​patience​ thine ​​​afflictions​, and I will give unto you success.
Alma 26:
​​​9 ​For if we had not come up out of the land of Zarahemla, these our dearly beloved brethren, who have so dearly beloved us, would still have been racked with ​​​hatred​ against us, yea, and they would also have been ​​​strangers​ to God.
 
7 ​But behold, they are in the hands of the Lord of the ​​​harvest​, and they are his; and he will ​​​raise​ them up at the last day.
​​​8 ​​​​Blessed​ be the name of our God; let us ​​​sing​ to his praise, yea, let us give ​​​thanks​ to his holy name, for he doth work righteousness forever.
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Alma 26
​​​31 ​Now behold, we can look forth and see the ​​​fruits​ of our labors; and are they few? I say unto you, Nay, they are ​​​many​; yea, and we can witness of their sincerity, because of their love towards their brethren and also towards us.




An account of Kim & Rhonda Roper in China





We had a wonderful time in China.  To say there were not hard days for us would be a lie.  We had days of “suffering” in body and mind.  We had days of hunger, thirst and fatigue.


We prayed every morning that the Lord would bless us in our teaching and make us instruments in God’s hands to bring if it were possible, our Chinese students to not only improve their English skills, but also discover truth.  “Truth is not invented, it’s discovered.”



In China we were blessed on many occasions with the spirit of the Lord which guided us and comforted us as we were away from or beloved family and dear friends.  We were blessed with patience in some or our afflictions.  (Culture shock). We were blessed to be good examples to hundreds of our beloved Chinese students and be instruments in the Lords hands in teaching them.



We experience some depressing days where at times we may have longed for home and longed for American food.  But the Lord comforted us, he gave us patience to endure some difficulties, and he gave us success.


Rhonda and I have often said to each other, “What if we hadn’t gone to China?”  How different our lives would be.  We loved our Chinese students (our Chinese brothers and sisters) who so dearly loved us.  Who without our example, and service, and love, could or most likely would have such different opinions of Americans, who are very much strangers to them in many ways.

I testify that the Chinese people are in the hands of the Lord, and they are indeed his, and he will raise them up at the last day. 

Every day we interacted with non-members.  Everyone we interacted with in China was a non-member.  Even though we were not set apart missionaries, we had more opportunities to interact with non-members than most senior missionaries do , who mainly interact and help and work with members of the Church in their missionary service.  We were told to look for daily miracles during our time in China.  We saw and experienced daily miracles, to many to describe that testified that the fruits of our labors are now few, but many. 

I want to tell you about one of those miracles.  Everyday miracles

– BYU Subway man
 One day we were riding the subway when a man approached us and said Hello.  He asked us where we were going.  We told him and continued to talk for a few minutes.  Then I told him that his English was very good.  He replied that he was an English teacher at Shaanxi Normal University.  I told him that Shaanxi Normal is right next to where we live and that I was also an English teacher and that I taught as XISU (Xi'an International Studies University).  He said he had attended XISU 30 years ago as a student.  He said he had an English teacher from America.  I said that I was from America.  Then he said she was from Utah.  What?  I told him I was from Utah.  Then he said that she was from BYU.  I couldn't believe what I was hearing.  I told him that I was from BYU.  Then he went on to tell me that he had gone to Washington DC to study and when he finished he went to Utah to visit "Barbara", his English teacher.  She took him to the great Salt Lake and let him dip his finger in the salty water.  She took him to the Mormon Temple and she took him to BYU.  Then he said, "I will always remember by English Teacher from BYU and from America."  It really touched us and I told the story to my students.

            Last day of class, Mable, wrote me a card.  “In 30 years, I will remember that I had an English teacher from BYU.”

Lessons Learned in China
            We are All of God’s Children
            The Chinese people are no different from us
                        Different History
                        Different Culture, Language, Food
                        Personalities are the same.

We are All of God’s Children

In 2 days we begin writing another new chapter in our book of life as we leave for Fiji to be ITEP Missionaries.  (International Teacher Education Program)

“Teaching is a noble profession that changes the lives of young people everywhere. (China, Fiji, and America). There can be no doubt that a great teacher can inspire, educate, counsel, and lead.

The School of Education at Brigham Young University Hawaii exists to prepare and place outstanding teachers both internationally and domestically. They desire these teachers to be highly skilled with sound practice and knowledge at their fingertips.  They also desire these teachers to be ethically and morally strong so that they can be positive role models for their students.

In collaboration with Brigham Young University Hawai'i, the International Teacher Education Program (ITEP) is a partnership created to provide professional development programs for teachers and administrators in the Pacific Islands who cannot travel to universities outside of their countries. These programs are intended to provide them with the knowledge and skills, needed to more effectively teach and administer.

Couples with teacher education expertise are called to serve as ITEP Missionaries and Adjunct Faculty to the School of Education of BYUH. With their professional backgrounds, they provide needed instruction in the designated course work and supervision required in each country.  The School of Education works with each international student to identify and meet the licensing requirements for their perspective country. These students will student teach in a school in their home country and work to become skilled certified teachers.”


I don’t know who the people who we will work with are, nor do they know who we are, but I do know there are people waiting for us whom we will learn to love dearly, and whom will love us.  Just like our experience in China

Many people asked us, “Why are you going to China?”  Why are we going to Fiji. 

In China, every class period I asked students questions to help them practice their English, and I had them ask me questions.  One day one of my students one day asked me, “Why did you come to China?”  I looked at her and answered that I followed my heart.  I came to meet you and teach you.  She cried.
26 For behold, it is not meet that I should command in all things; for he that is compelled in all things, the same is a slothful and not a wise servant; wherefore he receiveth no reward.
27 Verily I say, men should be anxiously engaged in a good cause, and do many things of their own free will, and bring to pass much righteousness;
28 For the power is in them, wherein they are agents unto themselves. And inasmuch as men do good they shall in nowise lose their reward.

I testify that the power is in each of us to be agents in the Lord’s hands, without having to be compelled or called to be anxiously engaged in a good cause, and to do many good things of your own free will, that will bring about goodness and righteousness in the world, our community, and your families. 

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